Legislature(2003 - 2004)

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                 JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                               
                       February 25, 2004                                                                                        
                           9:08 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Nancy Dahlstrom, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Carl Morgan                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Cheryll Heinze (alternate)                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Stevens                                                                                                            
Senator Gretchen Guess                                                                                                          
Senator Ben Stevens (alternate)                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Lieutenant General Tom Case                                                                                                     
Master Chief Frank Love                                                                                                         
Colonel Dean Owen                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gene Therriault                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Nick Stepovich                                                                                                   
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALASKAN COMMAND'S ANNUAL ADDRESS BY LIEUTENANT GENERAL CARROL H.                                                                
"HOWIE" CHANDLER                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL "HOWIE" CHANDLER, Commander                                                                                  
Alaskan Command                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER     GENERAL     CRAIG     E.     CAMPBELL,     Adjutant                                                               
General/Commissioner                                                                                                            
Department of Military & Veterans' Affairs                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JANICE NEILSON, Director                                                                                                        
Governmental and Legislative Affairs                                                                                            
U.S. Army Pacific                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIR GARY  WILKEN called the  Joint Armed  Services Committee                                                             
meeting  to   order  at  9:08   a.m.     Representatives  Harris,                                                               
Dahlstrom, Lynn,  Morgan, Joule, and Heinze  and Senators Wilken,                                                               
Dyson, Gary Stevens,  Guess, and Ben Stevens were  present at the                                                               
call  to order.   Public  members in  attendance were  Lieutenant                                                               
General  Tom Case,  Master  Chief Frank  Love,  and Colonel  Dean                                                               
Owen.  Representatives Stepovich  and Coghill and Senator Hoffman                                                               
were also in attendance.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ALASKAN COMMAND'S ANNUAL ADDRESS                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN welcomed everyone to  the meeting, the purpose of                                                               
which is  to receive an  update on the  military in Alaska.   Co-                                                               
Chair  Wilken introduced  Janice Nielson,  Director, Governmental                                                               
and Legislative Affairs, U.S. Army;  Captain David Ryan, Chief of                                                               
Staff for  the Coast  Guard District  17; Major  Brenda Campbell,                                                               
Public  Affairs  Office,  Alaska  Command  (ALCOM);  Captain  Ted                                                               
Geasely (ph), Aide to Lieutenant  General Chandler; Command Chief                                                               
Master  Sergeant  Chris  Dobbins,  the  11th  Air  Force;  Master                                                               
Sergeant   Robert   Carte,    210th   Rescue   Squadron,   Alaska                                                               
International Guard;  Boatswains Mate  First Class  Michael Love,                                                               
Cutter Liberty;  and Sergeant Matthew  Neville, U.S.  Army Alaska                                                               
Soldier of the Year.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN  then   introduced  Lieutenant  General  "Howie"                                                               
Chandler, who  is the senior  military officer in Alaska  and who                                                               
is responsible for the integration  of all military activities in                                                               
the Alaska  theater of operations.   Lieutenant  General Chandler                                                               
is  the commander  of  the  Alaskan Command,  which  is the  sub-                                                               
unified command  under the Pacific  Command.   Lieutenant General                                                               
Chandler integrates the activities of more than 21,000 active-                                                                  
duty Guard and Reserve members from  all services of Alaska.  Co-                                                               
Chair  Wilken   highlighted  that  Lieutenant   General  Chandler                                                               
commands  the  11th  Air  Force and  oversees  the  training  and                                                               
readiness   of  two   tactical  fighter   wings  and   Air  Force                                                               
installations located throughout the  state.  Furthermore, as the                                                               
commander  of the  Northern  American  Aerospace Defense  Command                                                               
(NORAD) Lieutenant  General Chandler  directs all  air operations                                                               
in  Alaska  to  ensure  defense   against  all  hostile  airborne                                                               
threats.  Moreover, Lieutenant General  Chandler is the Commander                                                               
of the  Joint Task Force  of Alaska,  and is responsible  for all                                                               
the  planning and  execution of  all homeland  defense operations                                                               
within  the   theater,  including  security  and   civil  support                                                               
actions.  Lieutenant  General Chandler is in his  second year and                                                               
has many honors and a lengthy resume.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL "HOWIE"  CHANDLER, Commander, Alaskan Command,                                                               
thanked  the committee  its support  over the  past year  and for                                                               
asking  him  to come  before  the  committee again.    Lieutenant                                                               
General Chandler emphasized that the  committee can be very proud                                                               
of  the men  and women  who are  serving in  the State  of Alaska                                                               
today.   For example, Sergeant  Carte is a rescue  specialist who                                                               
has flown  30 combat missions and  saved the lives of  six people                                                               
this last year  in support of Operation  Northern Watch, Southern                                                               
Watch,  and  Enduring  Freedom.     Lieutenant  General  Chandler                                                               
informed the  committee that Sergeant  Neville has been  a member                                                               
of the  U.S. Army since 1999  and plays the saxophone  in the 9th                                                               
Army  Band.   Furthermore,  Sergeant  Neville  is the  U.S.  Army                                                               
Alaska (USARAK)  and U.S.  Army Pacific  9 Commission  Officer of                                                               
the Year for  2003.  He then turned attention  to Boatswains Mate                                                               
First Class  Michael Love who  has executed 56 search  and rescue                                                               
missions while serving  aboard the icebreaker Polar  Star, and is                                                               
now serving aboard the Cutter Liberty.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER turned  to his presentation for which                                                               
the slides  are included in  the committee  packet.  He  began by                                                               
reviewing  the  military  structure.   He  highlighted  that  the                                                               
newest addition  to the military  structure is US  NORTHCOM [U.S.                                                               
Northern  Command], which  has extended  into Alaska  through the                                                               
Joint  Task  Force  -  Alaska (JTF-Alaska)  of  which  the  ALCOM                                                               
commander is  the commander.   The  geographic boundaries  of the                                                               
theater  of operations  correspond to  the State  of Alaska,  and                                                               
furthermore  there  are  different   authorities  vested  in  his                                                               
position,  based   on  the  four  different   headquarters.    He                                                               
explained  that the  responsibilities change  depending upon  the                                                               
mission and  who is tasking  the forces  in the state.   Missions                                                               
are conducted with ground, aerospace, and naval components.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 10.50                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  related  that most  of  the  ALCOM                                                               
missions  are  directed  by the  U.S.  Pacific  Command  (PACOM),                                                               
headquartered  in  Hawaii.   The  slide  entitled  "PACOM  Roles"                                                               
highlights ALCOM's  overarching responsibilities in  the theater.                                                               
He  pointed out  that other  missions are  performed in  order to                                                               
enhance  security and  stability throughout  the Pacific  reason.                                                               
As  this meeting  is occurring,  members  of the  Third Wing  are                                                               
participating  in exercises  in  both Thailand  and  India.   The                                                               
aforementioned  will be  beneficial in  the upcoming  cooperative                                                               
Cope Thunder,  which will be flown  on the ranges in  Alaska this                                                               
summer.  The  cooperative Cope Thunder is  the premier air-combat                                                               
exercise in  the Pacific  and continues to  grow and  support the                                                               
Pacific Rim military relationship.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  turned to  U.S. Pacific  Air Forces                                                               
(PACAF),  which is  also headquartered  in Hawaii  and delineates                                                               
the authority  of the  11th Air Force,  which is  responsible for                                                               
all   Air   Force   forces   in    Alaska.      Its   overarching                                                               
responsibilities  are to  organize, train,  and equip  forces for                                                               
combat operations  worldwide while emphasizing  the Pacific-Asian                                                               
theater.   Under the 11th  Air Force command, Alaska's  Air Force                                                               
facilities and resources in Alaska  are managed as well as taking                                                               
care of  the families [of  the Air  Force].  He  highlighted that                                                               
PACAF  is  shifting  gears  such  that  it  will  return  to  the                                                               
Aerospace   Expeditionary   Force    (AEF)   schedule   following                                                               
operations in  Enduring Freedom  and Iraqi Freedom.   As  part of                                                               
the normal  AEF schedule, approximately  450 airmen  from Eielson                                                               
Air Force  Base, 290  from Elmendorf Air  Force Base  will deploy                                                               
next  month  in support  of  operations  around  the world.    An                                                               
additional 1,000  airmen from  Elmendorf Air  Force Base  will be                                                               
postured to prepare to deploy should there be the need.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER,  in response  to  Senator  Dyson's                                                               
earlier question, moved  on to the slide  entitled "NORAD Roles".                                                               
The NORAD  headquarters are  in Colorado  Springs, Colorado.   He                                                               
highlighted  that  NORAD has  been  in  existence for  almost  50                                                               
years,  and has  successfully maintained  the air  sovereignty of                                                               
the U.S. and Canada from  external threats.  Since [the terrorist                                                               
attacks  of  September 11,  2001]  NORAD  became responsible  for                                                               
monitoring internal air threats that  could potentially be in the                                                               
state.    He informed  the  committee  that  [NORAD] has  an  E-3                                                               
surveillance aircraft as well as  F-15 fighters on alert 24 hours                                                               
seven days a  week.  Furthermore, remote radar  sites continue to                                                               
provide  external   and  internal  coverage  around   the  state.                                                               
Forward-operating locations  at Galena and King  Salmon are still                                                               
maintained to  respond to Russian military  aircraft.  Lieutenant                                                               
General Chandler related that F-15  aircraft intercepted a flight                                                               
of two  Russian bombers  that approached  Alaskan air  space last                                                               
August.   The aforementioned  is the  first Russian  intercept in                                                               
over 10 years and it  highlights the training of those performing                                                               
the  mission as  well as  the vigilance  that NORAD  continues to                                                               
maintain.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  asked if the  Canadian Air  Force has a  sector of                                                               
responsibility for North American air security.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER replied  yes, adding that Canada will                                                               
deploy to  some of the  forwarding operations in Canada  as well.                                                               
Furthermore, there  are arrangements for  cross-border operations                                                               
in the  bilateral agreement in  which Alaska and  Canada operate.                                                               
In  further   response  to  Senator  Dyson,   Lieutenant  General                                                               
Chandler  specified that  NORAD  doesn't  include surface  ships,                                                               
those are  under NORTHCOM.   However,  he informed  the committee                                                               
that  there  is   a  group  of  people   reviewing  the  Canadian                                                               
participation in NORTHCOM and how  such would be melded together.                                                               
He  suggested  that  a more  efficient  command  structure  would                                                               
probably  make sense.    This  study is  part  of  a study  being                                                               
conducted  by  NORAD  in  the   bilateral  arrangement  with  the                                                               
Canadians.   He  noted that  there  may be  a time  when it's  no                                                               
longer the  North American  Air Defense  Command, but  simply the                                                               
North  American Defense  Command.    Lieutenant General  Chandler                                                               
told the  committee that there are  ongoing discussions regarding                                                               
how to best organize to defend the North American continent.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON added  that the  Canadian  government is  actively                                                               
discussing reevaluating  the role of  its coast guard  and giving                                                               
it a  law enforcement and  national defense role similar  to that                                                               
of the U.S. Coast Guard.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEPOVICH related  his understanding that [Alaska]                                                               
is way ahead  of the Canadians with regard to  what [Alaska] puts                                                               
into NORAD.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER informed the committee  that when he                                                               
worked in the  Pentagon he was part of the  Permanent Joint Board                                                               
of  Defense, which  was established  after World  War II  in this                                                               
bilateral  arrangement   between  the  U.S.  and   Canada.    The                                                               
Canadians  have  been  extremely  good partners.    Although  the                                                               
Canadian  military  is  smaller  than   that  of  the  U.S.,  the                                                               
Canadians more  than contribute their  fair share with  regard to                                                               
providing forward  operating locations  across the  northern tier                                                               
and the  continuation of  the long-range  radar sites  across the                                                               
northern tier of Canada.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEPOVICH  said that  he was under  the impression                                                               
that  the  Canadians  depended  upon [Alaska]  for  a  lot  their                                                               
overall defense.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  stated that  he wouldn't  say that.                                                               
In fact in the NORAD  headquarters there are 30 Canadian officers                                                               
that participate.  Therefore, he  didn't believe that it would be                                                               
exactly correct to say that  [Alaska] is directly responsible for                                                               
the defense  of Canada.  Furthermore,  the extensive capabilities                                                               
of the  Canadians make them an  equal partner as far  as NORAD is                                                               
concerned.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER,   in  response  to  Representative                                                               
Stepovich,  explained that  during  different times  of the  year                                                               
Russian   aircraft  train   over  the   northern  Arctic   areas.                                                               
Sometimes  those  aircraft  venture near  Alaskan  airspace,  and                                                               
North American  Air Defense Command  ensures that  those aircraft                                                               
don't  enter Alaska's  airspace unescorted.   Lieutenant  General                                                               
Chandler specified  that there isn't  a fear that  Russians would                                                               
invade Alaska, but there is  an air sovereignty responsibility in                                                               
Alaska that is taken seriously.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 17.43                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE asked if the  Russian bombers [venture into                                                               
Alaska's airspace] every year when they get their fuel supply.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER replied  no, and reiterated that this                                                               
incident of  the Russian bombers  entering Alaska's  airspace was                                                               
the  first  time in  over  10  years.    He mentioned  that  it's                                                               
something that will  continue to be watched.   He emphasized that                                                               
he  was pleased  with the  system that  continues to  do the  job                                                               
expected of it for over 50 years.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER returned  to his  slide presentation                                                               
with a  slide entitled, "USNORTHCOM  Roles" and pointed  out that                                                               
U.S.  Northern  Command  is headquartered  in  Colorado  Springs,                                                               
Colorado.   He  explained  that USNORTHCOM  is [Alaska's]  parent                                                               
organization  for homeland  defense  and  military assistance  to                                                               
civil  authorities.   The Department  of Defense  (DoD) has  been                                                               
providing  homeland  defense  and military  support  to  civilian                                                               
authorities  for many  years.   In  the  past the  aforementioned                                                               
efforts  were  accomplished  somewhat  independently  by  several                                                               
different  commands.   However, since  [the terrorist  attacks of                                                               
September 11,  2001] the DoD  has changed  in order to  place all                                                               
homeland defense efforts  under a single, unified  command.  That                                                               
unified command,  Northern Command, has reached  full operational                                                               
capability as of October 2003,  and therefore there is a one-stop                                                               
shop for  all of the  DoD and homeland security  contributions to                                                               
the nation.   The impact on the creation of  the Northern Command                                                               
on military  forces in Alaska  has been transparent as  there has                                                               
been no  change in  the number of  forces or  the infrastructure.                                                               
However, if Alaskan forces are  needed, Northern Command can task                                                               
Alaskan  forces directly  under  JTF-Alaska  rather than  through                                                               
many separate  parent commands.   Therefore, [JTF-Alaska]  is the                                                               
one-stop   shop  in   Alaska  for   military  support   to  civil                                                               
authorities  and homeland  defense  type operations.   Just  this                                                               
past  year,  General  Ralph  E.  Eberhardt,  Commander,  Northern                                                               
Command,  visited  Juneau and  Anchorage  and  is returning  next                                                               
month  in  order  to  solidify  NORTHCOM  roles  and  interagency                                                               
relationships.     Lieutenant   General   Chandler  opined   that                                                               
interagency relationships  are key in  the success or  failure in                                                               
homeland defense efforts.  "We will  succeed or fail based on our                                                               
solid  relationships  between  the various  federal,  state,  and                                                               
local agencies," he  stated.  He emphasized the  need to continue                                                               
to work together to develop  plans and exercise actions together.                                                               
A  great  example  of  the  aforementioned  is  the  relationship                                                               
building that has  occurred in Juneau with  Unified Defense 2004,                                                               
which  is wrapping  up this  week.   Lieutenant General  Chandler                                                               
emphasized  that  the  development of  Northern  Command  doesn't                                                               
provide the military with any  new authority nor is any necessary                                                               
to conduct  unilateral operations.   Northern Command  remains in                                                               
the framework of the Posse Comitatus Act.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 20.46                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  turned to  Unified  Defense  2004.                                                               
Unified  Defense 2004  involved a  series of  simulated terrorist                                                               
attacks, including maritime  and port security events  as well as                                                               
aerospace defense activities in  Alaska.  Therefore, the Northern                                                               
Command  mission  and  NORAD mission  were  brought  together  to                                                               
exercise.  Unified Defense is  part of a larger exercise scenario                                                               
with participants  in Texas, Colorado, Virginia,  and Washington,                                                               
D.C.  This  exercise scenario is designed to  allow local, state,                                                               
and federal agencies  to work together to improve  the ability to                                                               
support homeland defense as well as local disasters.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  moved  on  to maritime  operations.                                                               
While the U.S.  Coast Guard (USCG) has become  more visible since                                                               
[the  terrorist  attacks of  September  11,  2001], the  homeland                                                               
security  mission of  the USCG  isn't new.   He  highlighted that                                                               
USCG  District  17  monitors  over   33,000  miles  of  coastline                                                               
throughout the  state.  In  the past  18 months, District  17 has                                                               
undertaken  additional homeland  security action,  including what                                                               
is  listed on  the  slide entitled  "Maritime  Operations."   The                                                               
USCG's expertise  in maritime  operations and  its position  as a                                                               
member of  the new  Department of Homeland  Security makes  it an                                                               
integral  part  of the  anti-terrorism  task  force and  homeland                                                               
defense team.  Furthermore, USCG  is crucial to the protection of                                                               
Valdez and responded as the lead  federal agency on behalf of the                                                               
Department  of Homeland  Security during  the increased  security                                                               
level in  Valdez this  past holiday  season.   Lieutenant General                                                               
Chandler pointed out  that Admiral Jim Underwood  was the primary                                                               
federal official  (PFO) in  charge of  the increased  security in                                                               
Valdez as well as during the Unified Defense exercise.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  informed the committee that  Admiral Underwood now                                                               
has a maritime rapid response team for District 17.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  indicated that  the MSST  [Maritime                                                               
Safety and Security  Teams] is the 13th and will  be the one that                                                               
will  standup in  Anchorage.   He explained  that it  would bring                                                               
about 100 personnel,  of which 70 would be  active duty personnel                                                               
and about 30  reservists.  Furthermore, there are  small boat and                                                               
dog team  capabilities that have  not been readily  accessible in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 23.39                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  returned  to  his presentation  and                                                               
drew  attention to  the slide  entitled "USARAK  Transformation."                                                               
He  informed  the committee  that  the  third  of six  U.S.  Army                                                               
Stryker Brigades  is standing up  in Alaska as the  172nd Stryker                                                               
Brigade Combat  Team.   The Stryker  Brigade helps  transform the                                                               
U.S. Army  into a  lighter, leaner,  and more  rapidly deployable                                                               
force.   The  172nd  Stryker  Brigade will  be  ready for  combat                                                               
deployments  by May  2005.   In the  meantime, the  U.S. Army  in                                                               
Alaska  will be  in transition  and brigade  teams will  train on                                                               
their  new  equipment  and  vehicles.   He  said  he  anticipated                                                               
approximately 300 Stryker  vehicles to arrive in  Alaska early in                                                               
the spring of 2004.   Furthermore, the redesignated task force to                                                               
the 501st  Airborne assigned to  Fort Richardson is  another unit                                                               
that  will be  in transformation.   The  redesignated task  force                                                               
will have  initial combat capability  as that of the  Stryker and                                                               
the  task force  is currently  deployed and  supporting operation                                                               
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIS recalled  last year  when there  were issues  in                                                               
Anchorage and Fort Greely with  regard to the Stryker brigade and                                                               
the areas that  may or may not  have been available for  use.  He                                                               
asked if the aforementioned has been resolved.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  answered,  "I  don't  think  we're                                                               
completely out of  the woods on either one of  those issues."  He                                                               
pointed out  that John Brown (ph)  has worked very hard  with his                                                               
installation commanders at  both locations.  The  drop zone issue                                                               
is   being  reviewed.     He   noted   that  [another]   complete                                                               
environmental assessment  is going  to be performed.   Lieutenant                                                               
General  Chandler  informed the  committee  that  at some  point,                                                               
there would be  a drop zone some place in  the north because it's                                                               
imperative to  the U.S.  Army's training.   With regard  to fence                                                               
issues at Fort  Richardson, a great amount of  public comment was                                                               
taken by the installation commander.   He emphasized the need for                                                               
folks to  keep in mind  that the U.S.  Army had always  wanted to                                                               
segregate  that  land.    However,  that isn't  to  say  that  it                                                               
wouldn't be  available for  special use  events because  there is                                                               
access capability,  as long as  the safety  of the public  can be                                                               
ensured.  There  are many other issues with regard  to the fence,                                                               
such as  the control of the  land.  At some  point, barriers will                                                               
need to be placed around the  property at Fort Richardson for the                                                               
safety of the  general public and the ability of  the soldiers to                                                               
properly train.   Lieutenant General Chandler  specified that the                                                               
U.S.  Army  will work  openly  with  the  public to  continue  to                                                               
resolve the issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HARRIS offered  to do whatever the  [legislature] can do                                                               
to minimize any difficulties with the public.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER noted his appreciation,  adding that                                                               
the military wants  to be good neighbors both  inside and outside                                                               
of all installations in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN commented  that it's  essential to  preserve                                                               
the integrity of the mission of Fort Richardson.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  highlighted that  one of  the problems  with the                                                               
[Fairbanks]  school district  has been  that many  military folks                                                               
moved  in the  summer and  the  Stryker folks  didn't fill  those                                                               
seats in the school.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER explained  that the  soldiers should                                                               
be arriving to "marry up  with the equipment" whether the soldier                                                               
obtains his  or her  training locally or  elsewhere.   He pointed                                                               
out that  typically the  services attempt to  rotate in  order to                                                               
place families and have children start school in the summer.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 28.06                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON related  his understanding  that with  the Stryker                                                               
Brigade  there   would  also  be  some   seaborne  rapid  transit                                                               
platforms to  be able to  move the Strykers.   He inquired  as to                                                               
the status of the aforementioned.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL   CHANDLER  answered   that  the   U.S.  Army                                                               
continues to  review ways  in which  to rapidly  transport people                                                               
via sealift.  He highlighted  that the Stryker has the capability                                                               
of  being deployed  in a  number  of ways.   The  U.S. Army  will                                                               
continue to  work on the issue.   In further response  to Senator                                                               
Dyson, Lieutenant  General Chandler  acknowledged that  there was                                                               
supposed to  be a visit  from a seaborne rapid  transit platform,                                                               
and he anticipated  that such a visit would occur  at some point.                                                               
He said  that at some point,  the soldiers will have  to practice                                                               
moving the  Stryker vehicles  to the port  and loading  them onto                                                               
the  ships,  and  other  things that  would  be  required  during                                                               
deployment  in  a  real  world  situation.    Lieutenant  General                                                               
Chandler said  that typically the  vessels he has seen  have been                                                               
30-40 knot  [rapid response] vessels,  although he  expressed the                                                               
need to confirm that.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  informed  the  committee that  this                                                               
USARAK transformation will increase  the number of Army personnel                                                               
in Alaska  by approximately 2,400.   To make  this transformation                                                               
possible, the  range construction  issues and the  range facility                                                               
issues will continue to be addressed.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 29.53                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  continued with  the slide  entitled                                                               
"Missile Defense."   Obviously,  ballistic missiles are  of great                                                               
concern to  national security and  Alaska is on the  leading edge                                                               
of defending the nation against  this threat.  Missile activities                                                               
are  in  high  gear  at   Fort  Greely  where  interceptor  silos                                                               
supporting  buildings have  been  completed  and missile  defense                                                               
systems are  being installed.   He noted that  Governor Murkowski                                                               
attended  the  ribbon  cutting  standup  of  the  Alaska  Missile                                                               
Defense  Battalion,  Alaska National  Guard,  at  Fort Greely  in                                                               
January.   Lieutenant  General Chandler  related  that the  COBRA                                                               
DANE Radar is  complete in terms of  modifications.  Furthermore,                                                               
the  command  and control  systems  are  being installed  in  new                                                               
facilities at Eareckson  Air Station.  He  informed the committee                                                               
that several missile defense-related  test launches are scheduled                                                               
for  Kodiak.   Although one  was scheduled  for March,  it's been                                                               
pushed  back to  an unknown  date.   However, there  should be  a                                                               
launch  out  of  Kodiak  by  this  summer.    Lieutenant  General                                                               
Chandler said that  missile defense will provide  the nation with                                                               
an initial defensive  capability before the end of the  year.  By                                                               
the  end  of  2005  this  capability will  be  enhanced  with  10                                                               
additional interceptors  at Fort Greely and  the Sea-Based X-Band                                                               
Radar from its homeport at Adak.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER turned  to the C-17  in Alaska.   He                                                               
pointed out  that some of  the benefits  to bringing the  C-17 to                                                               
Alaska  include a  greater payload  and newer  and more  reliable                                                               
equipment that can more easily  support locations in the Aleutian                                                               
Chain and throughout the Pacific  theater.  Furthermore, the C-17                                                               
provides  a great  ability to  deploy forces  from Alaska.   Both                                                               
active duty and  reserve personnel will fly the C-17s.   He noted                                                               
that  the U.S.  Air Force  has had  great success  with a  mix of                                                               
active  duty   and  reserve   personnel.     Currently,  training                                                               
opportunities are  being studied in  Alaska and are  working with                                                               
the U.S.  Army with regard  to a potential assault  landing strip                                                               
at Allen Army  Airfield as that airfield is  improved for missile                                                               
defense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  moved  on  to  the  management  of                                                               
airspace  training and  ranges.   Retaining  the  ability to  use                                                               
ranges on the ground and in the  air in Alaska is critical to the                                                               
future utility  of the forces  and the bases  in the state.   The                                                               
wide-open spaces in Alaska allow  crucial large-scale training to                                                               
be  conducted,  and  nowhere  in  the  Lower  48  can  comparable                                                               
training  opportunities be  found.   Lieutenant General  Chandler                                                               
opined  that  Alaska's  ranges constitute  a  national  treasure.                                                               
Furthermore,  he  believes that  the  importance  of the  Pacific                                                               
Alaska  Range Complex  or Park  will only  continue to  grow, and                                                               
therefore   [the  military]   continues   to   invest  in   range                                                               
improvements.   In fact, there is  a plan that would  commit $178                                                               
million in range  improvements through 2010 to  the Pacific Range                                                               
Complex.   He pointed out that  work with the Alaska  Railroad is                                                               
also  occurring to  extend the  line near  the range  which would                                                               
allow joint exercises  with U.S. Army personnel on  the ground as                                                               
well as  aircraft overhead.   He noted  the potential  for forces                                                               
from the  Lower 48 being  transported via  rail from the  port to                                                               
the ranges  to the  North, and  therefore allow  joint exercises.                                                               
Lieutenant General  Chandler stated  that this  is an  example of                                                               
how the  Alaska Command commander could  help coordinate training                                                               
opportunities in the  state.  He thanked the  legislature and the                                                               
citizens   of   Alaska   for  constant   support   for   training                                                               
requirements.    Furthermore,   the  cooperation  between  Alaska                                                               
civilians and the military has been  a great success.  He pointed                                                               
out that  with the legislature's and  Alaskan civilians' support,                                                               
there are plans to place radar  on hill 3265, which would provide                                                               
greater  radar  coverage  for the  Federal  Aviation  Association                                                               
(FAA) and  civilian traffic, improved aircraft  deconfliction, as                                                               
well as  coverage over the  missile field  at Fort Greeley.   The                                                               
aforementioned  is  another example  of  how  the Alaska  Command                                                               
commander  can coordinate  military  activities in  the state  to                                                               
maximize those capabilities.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 34.22                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEPOVICH  inquired as  to  how  the military  is                                                               
handling hunters' cabins.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER explained  that the land is withdrawn                                                               
for use by the military from  the Bureau of Land Management.  The                                                               
military  then  becomes  responsible   for  the  use,  care,  and                                                               
environmental stewardship  of that land.   The concern is  one of                                                               
safety.    For  example,  if  someone  is  on  the  range  at  an                                                               
inappropriate time, there is the  chance of hurting someone.  The                                                               
U.S.  Army  has  been  successful   with  removing  some  of  the                                                               
[hunters' cabins]  from the range  in order to ensure  the safety                                                               
of the civilian populous.   In further response to Representative                                                               
Stepovich,  Lieutenant  General  Chandler  indicated  that  folks                                                               
[with  hunters' cabins]  should've been  notified, but  specified                                                               
that the U.S. Army and the  range management folks at ALCOM would                                                               
be the best place to start.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN recalled the figure  of $170 million in the range                                                               
complex  through 2010.   He  asked if  the aforementioned  figure                                                               
referred to electronics as well as hard assets.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER explained that  the focus is to lay a                                                               
backbone of  fiber, a backbone  of power in  order to be  able to                                                               
take advantage  of some of  the newer emerging technologies.   In                                                               
fact, there is  review of skipping a generation  of technology on                                                               
the range  in order to  take advantage  of new technology.   This                                                               
new technology, in some cases,  provides more realism and is more                                                               
environmentally friendly.  He mentioned  that there has been very                                                               
good help  from the congressional  delegation with regard  to the                                                               
ranges.  Lieutenant General Chandler  informed the committee that                                                               
the next  level [of  technology and  training] will  combine live                                                               
flying and  simulation.  Therefore, there  are huge opportunities                                                               
with regard  to training  on the  Pacific Range.   As  new weapon                                                               
systems are brought on, it's  sometimes difficult to explain that                                                               
the U.S.  Air Force and  the U.S.  Army has gotten  smaller while                                                               
the  training   range  requirements   continue  to  grow.     The                                                               
aforementioned  is  related to  the  capabilities  of the  weapon                                                               
systems.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 38.10                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE asked if there  is any plan for fiber optic                                                               
communication between Greely and Kodiak.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER replied  no, but offered  to double-                                                               
check that.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HARRIS  related his understanding that  the best defense                                                               
against the  Base Realignment and  Closure (BRAC) process  is the                                                               
amount of land and air space available for training in Alaska.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER opined  that in training,  no matter                                                               
which  branch  of  the  military, there  are  three  things  that                                                               
matter.   First,  the base  needs to  have all  of the  necessary                                                               
capabilities from  which to operate.   Therefore, the  base would                                                               
be free of  encroachment and allow flying day or  night.  Second,                                                               
there  needs to  be the  ability  to transition  between a  range                                                               
complex.    Third,  the  range  complex  should  allow  realistic                                                               
training.  The above three  things provide the ability to develop                                                               
combat  capability,  which  would  be  important  to  a  military                                                               
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIS  surmised  that  if Alaska  has  to  defend  the                                                               
continuance  of bases  in Alaska,  Alaska  should emphasize  [the                                                               
amount of land and air space available for training].                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER agreed.   He informed  the committee                                                               
that the BRAC process is at  a point in which military commanders                                                               
can provide  information with  regard to the  mission needs.   He                                                               
reiterated that the  military would continue to be  open and work                                                               
with the community as has been the case in the past.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIS  commented that  the  legislature  will have  to                                                               
continue to BRAC proof Alaska's bases if possible.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 41.21                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON recalled that during World  War II and the Cold War                                                               
many military stationed  in Alaska probably didn't  have the type                                                               
of stewardship that Alaskans do.   He informed the committee that                                                               
he has picked up thousands  of pieces of unexploded munitions and                                                               
drums of  dangerous chemicals  at Fort  Wainwright.   However, he                                                               
acknowledged the huge efforts to  cleanup over the last 45 years.                                                               
Therefore, he sensed that the military  is now doing a far better                                                               
job of  tracking materials and  ensuring that things  are cleaned                                                               
up.  He asked if that perception would be correct.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER replied yes, adding  his belief that                                                               
folks are a lot  smarter.  He remarked that he  knows of no other                                                               
organization that  works any harder with  regard to environmental                                                               
stewardship or cleaning up.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 44.03                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER continued  with his  presentation by                                                               
turning to the slide entitled  "Alaska Land Mobile Radio" (ALMR).                                                               
He explained  that the goal of  the ALMR is to  secure inoperable                                                               
communications  that can  be shared  by all  federal, state,  and                                                               
local  agencies during  daily operations  and  emergencies.   The                                                               
plan will  grow to  cover 90 percent  of the  state's populations                                                               
and will entail  deployed systems that will  increase coverage to                                                               
remote areas  not in the main  system.  Last year,  14 sites were                                                               
built up and two master  controllers around Fairbanks, Anchorage,                                                               
Juneau,  and Valdez.    This  year the  project  is expanding  to                                                               
include 37  sites at key locations  across the state.   There has                                                               
been  a unprecedented  partnership  and  cooperation between  the                                                               
military and the state in this  area.  The inoperability has been                                                               
successfully   demonstrated  in   exercises   under  real   world                                                               
scenarios.  The land mobile  radio was first used during Northern                                                               
Edge 2003 for a homeland security  exercise in Valdez and then in                                                               
a real  situation in Valdez  during the holiday season  threat to                                                               
the  Port of  Valdez.   The land  mobile radio  was also  used in                                                               
Juneau during  Unified Defense.   He  reiterated that  the system                                                               
will  continue   to  grow  and   emphasized  that  it's   not  an                                                               
inexpensive system.   In fact,  the DoD rough order  of magnitude                                                               
cost  for  infrastructure  is approximately  $51  million.    The                                                               
overall system  will cost in  the vicinity  of $90 million.   The                                                               
DoD has obligated about half of  the $51 million to the build out                                                               
of the  system.  If the  pace is kept, in  fiscal year 2006-2007,                                                               
assuming state  and federal funding continues,  the system should                                                               
be completed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HEINZE  inquired as to whether  Lieutenant General                                                               
Chandler was  referring to  Alaska DoD,  Homeland Security,  or a                                                               
mixture.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  explained   that  the  ALMR  melds                                                               
together a  number of systems that  have never been able  to talk                                                               
to  each other.   It  allows some  of the  agencies to  move into                                                               
newer equipment.   Furthermore, it allows [the  military] to move                                                               
out  of  the  frequency  spectrum   that  needs  to  be  vacated.                                                               
Moreover, it allows secure ... [tape changes side]                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-1, SIDE B                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL   CHANDLER  continued,   "...  communications                                                               
between any agency that wants  to buy the subscriber equipment to                                                               
get  onto this  backbone that's  being built  by the  federal and                                                               
state governments."   Therefore,  everyone can take  advantage of                                                               
the [land mobile radio].                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN   pointed  out  that  Brigadier   General  Craig                                                               
Campbell has worked hard on the ALMR.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 46.10                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRIGADIER     GENERAL     CRAIG     E.     CAMPBELL,     Adjutant                                                               
General/Commissioner, Department of  Military & Veterans' Affairs                                                               
(DMVA),  agreed that  the ALMR  is a  large and  expensive system                                                               
that will  provide total interoperability  across the state.   He                                                               
pointed out that  ALMR is being managed by the  state through the                                                               
Department of  Administration, and  there is a  full-time project                                                               
manager  who works  with all  the agencies  to ensure  successful                                                               
implementation   of    ALMR.       He   highlighted    that   the                                                               
interoperability at the  local level is being  reviewed, and such                                                               
would  require [the  local level]  to provide  some complimentary                                                               
resources with  ALMR.  Therefore,  he predicted that  between the                                                               
federal and state  resources, one will be  pleased with emergency                                                               
communications in the short and long term.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER continued with his  presentation and                                                               
turned  attention to  the slide  entitled, "NORTHERN  EDGE."   He                                                               
reminded  the  committee  that  in the  past  the  Northern  Edge                                                               
exercise  has  exercised the  major  theater  war plan  annually.                                                               
However,  with  the  standup  of the  Northern  Command  and  the                                                               
necessity  for  that  command  to   exercise,  PACOM  and  NORCOM                                                               
leaderships agreed to  the concept of exercising  a major theater                                                               
war  plan in  even years  and  provide a  venue in  odd years  to                                                               
exercise   homeland  security.     Lieutenant   General  Chandler                                                               
explained  that in  even years  ALCOM's role  in PACOM's  mission                                                               
will  be  maintained  and  will formally  tie  Northern  Edge  to                                                               
existing war  plans.  This year  Northern Edge will be  held June                                                               
7-16th and  a Navy carrier  strike group with  approximately nine                                                               
ships and  organic air wing  will deploy  to Alaska.   Over 9,000                                                               
personnel and approximately 170  aircraft from the Navy, Marines,                                                               
Air Force, and Army are scheduled  to participate.  He noted that                                                               
air operations will be conducted over  the Gulf of Alaska and the                                                               
Interior  ranges.   Through the  Alaska  Civil Military  Aviation                                                               
Council,  there will  be advance  coordination with  the civilian                                                               
aviation communication and state and local leadership.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER explained  that in odd years Northern                                                               
Edge  would  align  with  the  Northern  Command  and  provide  a                                                               
training  environment to  validate real  world training  concepts                                                               
and  practices.    Furthermore, it  provides  an  opportunity  to                                                               
coordinate  numerous  homeland  security, homeland  defense,  and                                                               
military assistance to civil  authority type activities currently                                                               
being planned  in many different  agencies throughout  the state.                                                               
In  response  to  Co-Chair Wilken,  Lieutenant  General  Chandler                                                               
specified that  the carrier  Stenos (ph)  will come.   Lieutenant                                                               
General Chandler said that he  was pleased with the participation                                                               
in Northern  Edge this  year, which he  partly attributed  to the                                                               
alternating year concept.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 42.28                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  continued with  the slide  entitled                                                               
"Arctic  SAREX"  in  which  he participated  this  past  fall  in                                                               
Russia.   This  exercise  provided an  invaluable opportunity  to                                                               
build relationships, exchange search  and rescue information over                                                               
the past 11 years between  Canada, Russia, and the United States.                                                               
This year  the U.S. will host  the exercise at Eielson  Air Force                                                               
Base.  Lieutenant General Chandler  characterized this as a great                                                               
opportunity to coordinate and  conduct an international exercise.                                                               
The total force of the 210th Rescue Squadron will be utilized.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEPOVICH inquired  as  to the  number of  people                                                               
coming in from Russia and Canada for this exercise.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER estimated that 200  people, maximum,                                                               
although he noted his reluctance  to specify a number because the                                                               
intermediate and final planning conferences haven't been done.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEPOVICH asked if  those military personnel would                                                               
go into town in Fairbanks.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER said  that he anticipated some social                                                               
events  that  would  allow  such.     He  then  returned  to  his                                                               
presentation  and the  slide  entitled "Community  Coordination."                                                               
He  informed the  committee that  ALCOM is  working closely  with                                                               
local  communities  on  several  issues, such  as  the  Knik  Arm                                                               
Bridge.   Furthermore, over a year's  worth of work has  been put                                                               
into executing a  lease to allow the Port of  Anchorage access to                                                               
a  strip of  military land  that would  allow the  port's planned                                                               
expansion.   Both  military and  port officials  are striving  to                                                               
ensure that  future development around  Elmendorf Air  Force Base                                                               
doesn't comprise  flight safety  operations, quality of  life, or                                                               
threaten future viability  of the land around the port.   At this                                                               
point, Lieutenant General  Chandler said he is  pleased with both                                                               
projects,  although  the initial  plans  are  awaited.   He  then                                                               
informed  the committee  that transferring  on-base schools  from                                                               
the  Department  of  Education and  Early  Development  to  local                                                               
school districts has  been ongoing since 1985.   The military has                                                               
tracked the  progress of demolishing, replacing,  or turning over                                                               
23  schools on  7 installations  to local  municipalities.   This                                                               
past year  has been extremely  successful and only  three schools                                                               
remain to  be transferred.   Those three schools are  expected to                                                               
be transferred  before the end  of the year.   Lieutenant General                                                               
Chandler  pointed out  that the  railroad  re-alignment near  the                                                               
northern  ranges  will  allow  enhanced  joint  training  on  the                                                               
ranges.  A  proposed rail extension and bridge  across the Tanana                                                               
River will  improve range access  and enhance the ability  to use                                                               
the Pacific Alaska  Range Complex, both on the ground  and in the                                                               
air.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 39.11                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HARRIS asked  whether  the proposed  gas  line out  the                                                               
Alaska Highway and  the proposed railroad parallel  to that would                                                               
benefit the military in Alaska.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL CHANDLER  replied  that the  Army is  excited                                                               
about it  because it allows  access to training ranges  that have                                                               
been difficult to get to in  the past.  Furthermore, it opens the                                                               
way to bring in  units from the Lower 48 up  to the Alaska ranges                                                               
to train.   Once forces are on the ground,  it allows the overlay                                                               
of  the air  battle and  thus  superb joint  training can  occur.                                                               
Additionally,  there  may  be  the  opportunity  to  take  threat                                                               
simulators  and  move  them  around  the  range  via  rail  cars.                                                               
Therefore, Lieutenant  General Chandler said that  [the military]                                                               
is only limited by its imagination.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEPOVICH  commented  that it  really  clogs  the                                                               
highway when military training occurs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL CHANDLER agreed.   He then turned to the slide                                                               
entitled  "Civil Air  Patrol," which  is a  summary of  Civil Air                                                               
Patrol (CAP)  activity in  Alaska over  this past  year.   As the                                                               
slide  specifies, the  CAP participated  in  203 search  missions                                                               
around  the  state, saved  32  lives,  and provided  29  assists.                                                               
Lieutenant  General Chandler  moved on  to the  "Base Realignment                                                               
and Closure" slide.   Although the final decisions  won't be made                                                               
until the  fall of 2005,  the DoD  is already gathering  data and                                                               
information from  across the services.   At a minimum,  BRAC 2005                                                               
must  eliminate excess  physical capacity,  which diverts  scarce                                                               
resources  from  defense  capability.    One  of  the  underlying                                                               
responsibilities  of  the military  is  to  be good  stewards  of                                                               
precious tax dollars,  he said.  He specified that  the BRAC 2005                                                               
process   will   transform    the   military   by   rationalizing                                                               
infrastructure  with  the defense  strategy.    "The bottom  line                                                               
being:  optimizing our military readiness," he said.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL  CHANDLER  moved  on to  the  slide  entitled                                                               
"Alaska National Guard."  He  emphasized that the military relies                                                               
heavily on the Guard and the  Reserve.  The Alaska National Guard                                                               
has completed its transition to  the Air National Guard, and have                                                               
hired the new  Air National Guard commander.   Air National Guard                                                               
personnel are  being transitioned to  operate the radar  at Clear                                                               
Station.   Once  completed, operational  and security  aspects of                                                               
the missile defense  system in Alaska will be  transferred to the                                                               
Alaska  Army   National  Guard.    Lieutenant   General  Chandler                                                               
highlighted the fact that he  and Brigadier General Campbell work                                                               
together every day.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 35.50                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON turned  to the changing role of the  Air Force, and                                                               
opined that  the capacity for  mid-air refueling must be  a large                                                               
component of the Air Force.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT  GENERAL   CHANDLER  agreed,  adding  that   the  air-                                                               
refueling wing at Eielson Air  Force Base amounts to one-third of                                                               
the  refueling assets  in the  Pacific theater.   He  agreed with                                                               
Senator Dyson that it's a  worldwide asset that has been deployed                                                               
around the world.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON related  his assumption that all the  fuel used [by                                                               
the refueling wing] is produced in Alaska.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER indicated  that the fuel  comes from                                                               
the Northstar Petroleum unit.   He agreed with Senator Dyson that                                                               
[the refueling  wing] is a major  resource, but he added  that it                                                               
emphasizes  that  the ALCOM  commands  nothing  and is  rather  a                                                               
coordinator.     It's  very  important  to   coordinate  military                                                               
activities in the state with  things such as petroleum production                                                               
and how it's protected.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON inquired as to how  much aviation fuel is used in a                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT  GENERAL  CAMPBELL  replied  that he  didn't  know,  but                                                               
confirmed that  the heavy  load [fuel] does  come from  the North                                                               
Pole refinery.  The aviation fuel  is stored at Eielson Air Force                                                               
Base and is part of [the base's]  total fuel load.  He offered to                                                               
get back to Senator Dyson with regard to the specific amount.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 33.20                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON related  his  belief that  there  is virtually  no                                                               
place in  the U.S.  where military personnel  feel as  welcome as                                                               
they do in Alaska.  He asked if the aforementioned is true.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER replied yes, adding  that it's borne                                                               
out  in the  retention and  extension figures  and the  number of                                                               
military personnel  who retire in this  state.  In fact,  one out                                                               
of  five Alaskans  has some  direct connection  to the  military.                                                               
Lieutenant  General Chandler  said that  he and  Adjutant General                                                               
Campbell are fortunate to be in an environment such as Alaska.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY  STEVENS characterized  the cooperation  between the                                                               
military services as an enormously  important issue.  He recalled                                                               
that  some historians  say that  unnecessary  deaths occurred  in                                                               
Alaska during World War II  because of inter-service rivalry.  He                                                               
asked if that will happen again in wartime.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER commented that there  were some good                                                               
lessons learned  from World War II  and ALCOM stood up  to try to                                                               
solve  some  of  the  problems.     Lieutenant  General  Chandler                                                               
informed the committee that the  U.S. Secretary of Defense places                                                               
a  high  value in  joint  [efforts]  and although  benefits  were                                                               
reaped  in the  first Desert  Storm, they  weren't reaped  to the                                                               
extent experienced  in Iraqi  Freedom.   He suggested  that Iraqi                                                               
Freedom was the  first true joint operation in  which joint fires                                                               
were brought to bear without some  of the issues that have arisen                                                               
in the  past.   On a personal  note, Lieutenant  General Chandler                                                               
related  that  he  and  John  Brown  were  national  war  college                                                               
classmates and there probably isn't  any problem between the Army                                                               
and the  Air Force in Alaska  that can't be solved.   However, he                                                               
acknowledged  that there  will always  be friction  because there                                                               
are  always resource  allocation problems  between the  services.                                                               
How the  aforementioned is handled  at the general  officer level                                                               
permeates throughout the organization, he said.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN, returning to the  question of fuel, informed the                                                               
committee that  there is  an 8-inch pipeline  that runs  from the                                                               
North Pole refinery 10 miles to Eielson Air Force Base.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 28.59                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LIEUTENANT GENERAL  CHANDLER turned  to the last  slide, entitled                                                               
"Summary."    He explained  that  all  of these  transformational                                                               
items are  important, but it doesn't  accomplish anything without                                                               
the young  men and  women who operate  them.   Lieutenant General                                                               
Chandler  said  that  he  hoped  the  committee  understands  how                                                               
important Alaska will be as the military continues to transform.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEPOVICH turned  attention  to  Clear Air  Force                                                               
Station  and inquired  as to  what [more  military] will  mean in                                                               
regard to civilian jobs.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT  GENERAL  CAMPBELL confirmed  that  there  will be  more                                                               
jobs.  The  contractor will continue to work at  [Clear Air Force                                                               
Station] after  the activation  and much  of the  maintenance and                                                               
support work  for Fort Greely  will be civilian contractors.   He                                                               
specified that  the military  presence should  be very  small and                                                               
the roles the  military will play are security for  the field and                                                               
launch operators.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL  CAMPBELL provided the committee  with a booklet                                                               
entitled,   "Joint  Armed   Services   Committee  Annual   Update                                                               
Presentation."  He  began by reminding the committee  that he has                                                               
met  with  everyone  individually.    Adjutant  General  Campbell                                                               
echoed  Lieutenant General  Chandler's  comments  that the  joint                                                               
force is working  extremely well.  He assured  the committee that                                                               
friction between  the various branches of  military doesn't exist                                                               
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL  CAMPBELL informed the committee  that this past                                                               
year  the director  of the  National Guard  Bureau mandated  that                                                               
states go to a joint operation,  a National Guard.  To accomplish                                                               
a joint operation,  there will be a standup  of full headquarters                                                               
for the joint forces, which  will include the commander being the                                                               
Air Guard,  the chief of  staff coming  from the Army  Guard, and                                                               
all components would  be blue and green without  relevancy to the                                                               
color of  the uniform.   The aforementioned is being  expanded to                                                               
the  active  duty forces,  and  therefore  it becomes  irrelevant                                                               
whether  an Air  or Army  Guard is  [provided] because  the skill                                                               
necessary  is provided.   For  example,  just two  weeks ago  the                                                               
active-duty Army  requested support  from the National  Guard for                                                               
convoy  work in  Iraqi.   The result  was that  the Air  National                                                               
Guard provided  the drivers and  the support people for  the Army                                                               
convoys  in  Iraqi.    Adjutant  General  Campbell  reviewed  the                                                               
bullets on the "Alaska National  Guard" page, and emphasized that                                                               
everything is on the web site.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL turned to  the Army National Guard.  He                                                               
highlighted that  33 soldiers from  the Army National  Guard have                                                               
been  serving  at   Kulis  Air  National  Guard   Base  as  force                                                               
protection for  the Air National  Guard.  The  aforementioned has                                                               
been  extended  for  another  year  and  is  another  example  of                                                               
jointness.   Additionally,  67 soldiers  from  the Army  National                                                               
Guard Aviation in Alaska are now  in Kosovo and will be providing                                                               
the helicopter,  airless support  for the  peacekeeping operation                                                               
in Kosovo.   He  highlighted that the  Kosovo, Bosnia,  and Sinai                                                               
Peninsula operations performed by the  U.S. are all being done by                                                               
the  National Guard.   The  aforementioned  illustrates that  the                                                               
National Guard is  prepared to do what the  active duty component                                                               
requires.   He  mentioned that  the [Alaska  National Guard]  has                                                               
assumed the  mission at Fort  Greely, which includes  47 military                                                               
police and 15  launch operators.  The  aforementioned will expand                                                               
to about 100  at the end of  this year.  Fort Greely  is the only                                                               
location   in   America   that  will   provide   the   mid-course                                                               
intercontinental ballistic missiles.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL  CAMPBELL recalled that  one of the  problems he                                                               
saw when  he arrived in  Alaska was that  in many cases  the Army                                                               
National Guard  may not  be relevant to  the active  duty forces.                                                               
He  emphasized  that  in  terms of  funding  and  integration,  a                                                               
[National Guard]  component must  be relevant  to an  active duty                                                               
component in order to receive  support.  Therefore, aligning with                                                               
the Korea  war plan would provide  some of that relevancy  to the                                                               
Army.   In Juneau, construction  of the Juneau Armory  has begun.                                                               
Furthermore, plans have been developed  and land has been secured                                                               
for the new Bethel Armory.   There is money in the capital budget                                                               
request  that would  allow federal  matching funds  to build  the                                                               
Bethel Armory starting in 2006.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 20.46                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL highlighted  that a Junior ROTC program                                                               
was started in  Nome and such a program is  actively being sought                                                               
to begin in  Kotzebue this year.  If the  Kotzebue program works,                                                               
then Barrow  will be  the next  site.  He  related that  he would                                                               
like  to  have the  four  major  regional  areas in  western  and                                                               
northern Alaska  represented with Junior  ROTC.  He  informed the                                                               
committee that 291 soldiers were  enlisted last year and soldiers                                                               
were  activated  for  force  protection  in  Juneau  and  Valdez.                                                               
Adjutant General Campbell reminded the  committee that at the end                                                               
of  2003  there  was  credible  information  regarding  potential                                                               
threats  to  Alaska,  specifically  in   the  Valdez  area.    He                                                               
characterized  what  he  saw  during  the end  of  last  year  as                                                               
outstanding  cooperation   between  federal,  state,   and  local                                                               
agencies  in meeting  the needs  of the  Port of  Valdez and  the                                                               
capital city should anything occur.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 19.24                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL moved on  to the Air National Guard and                                                               
highlighted that it  always stands ready to serve  Alaska and the                                                               
nation.   With regard to the  tankers at Eielson Air  Force Base,                                                               
he  emphasized that  virtually everything  they  do supports  the                                                               
federal  mission of  the U.S.    There isn't  much refueling  for                                                               
state resources,  which is unique  because in most  states tanker                                                               
resources  provide refueling  for other  National Guard  that fly                                                               
fighters.  Alaska doesn't have  any National Guard units that fly                                                               
fighters and  there isn't a strategic  airlift Reserve component.                                                               
Therefore, when  the tankers  perform fueling  it's done  for the                                                               
active duty.  Alaska's refueling  unit provides the highest level                                                               
of support to active duty of any refueling unit in the country.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT  GENERAL CAMPBELL  turned to  the 210th  Rescue Squadron                                                               
out  of Kulis  Air National  Guard  Base.   He characterized  the                                                               
210th Rescue  Squadron as  the premier  combat search  and rescue                                                               
unit in the world.  In fact,  over 200 airmen of the 210th Rescue                                                               
Squadron  were deployed  to Afghanistan  and  Uzbekistan.   These                                                               
airmen experienced hostile fire,  but this very dangerous mission                                                               
was done without any casualties.   Alaska benefits from the 210th                                                               
Rescue Squadron  in its  capacity as the  premier rescue  unit in                                                               
this state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 16.56                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL  CAMPBELL moved on  to the Alaska  State Defense                                                               
Force, which is part of the  Alaska National Guard.  He explained                                                               
that  the soldiers  in the  Alaska State  Defense Force  are used                                                               
when  the Alaska  National Guard  is engaged  in other  missions.                                                               
The Alaska  State Defense Force  is a volunteer force  that isn't                                                               
paid unless  activated.  At  the end of last  year, approximately                                                               
80 Alaska State Defense Force  volunteers were activated to serve                                                               
in Valdez and Juneau.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL continued  with the 2005 objectives for                                                               
the  Alaska  National Guard.    He  highlighted the  bullet  that                                                               
specifies  that in  2005 the  Air  National Guard  Transformation                                                               
Plan will  be initiated, and  recalled U.S. Secretary  of Defense                                                               
Donald  Rumsfeld's  message  that  the active  duty  and  reserve                                                               
components are  to do better,  do more,  and not grow  the force.                                                               
Therefore,  having   a  fixed  number  of   people  with  greater                                                               
responsibilities is  a tremendous challenge and  relates that the                                                               
military  can't do  things  the way  it  has in  the  past.   The                                                               
aforementioned has  resulted in everyone  in the active  duty and                                                               
the    reserve    component   reviewing,    restructuring,    and                                                               
transforming.   He pointed out  that the Air National  Guard will                                                               
lose aircraft  nationally, although the  hope is not to  lose any                                                               
in Alaska.   However, the people  will be kept.   If the aircraft                                                               
has to  be lost  to meet  the goal, the  question becomes  how to                                                               
apply the  people in a valuable  mission to the active  duty that                                                               
also provides  value to the  state.  Therefore, the  Regional Air                                                               
Operations  Center and  Clear  Air Force  Station  coming to  the                                                               
Alaska  National  Guard is  very  valuable  because these  aren't                                                               
deployable resources.   Since these aren't  deployable resources,                                                               
the Alaska National  Guard coming in frees  active duty personnel                                                               
to  be deployed  and placed  in other  career fields  of the  Air                                                               
Force  to fight  the  war  overseas.   He  mentioned  that he  is                                                               
looking at transforming  the Air National Guard to  meet the U.S.                                                               
Secretary  of  Defense's  requirements  while  preserving  what's                                                               
valuable to Alaska.   In fact, recruitment and  retention will be                                                               
increased  as  will  the  integration   at  the  national  level.                                                               
Furthermore,  more   service  will  be  provided   in  the  state                                                               
partnership program  with Mongolia.   He explained  that Mongolia                                                               
is a developing  nation that desperately wants to  align with the                                                               
U.S.  The State Department and  the DoD have a program that allow                                                               
National  Guard units  to  align with  countries  to provide  the                                                               
introduction   into  a   country   "below   the  radar   screen."                                                               
Therefore,  a   relationship  valuable   to  the  U.S.   will  be                                                               
established.   In fact,  Mongolians are coming  to visit  and see                                                               
what is  done in  search and rescue.   Adjutant  General Campbell                                                               
requested  the  [legislature's]  support  of  the  aforementioned                                                               
because it's good for Alaska and the nation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL moved on  to the 2005 Objectives of the                                                               
Army National Guard  and pointed out that it's in  the process of                                                               
activating and stepping up the  (indisc.) mission of Fort Greely,                                                               
which  he predicted  will be  very  successful.   With the  joint                                                               
forces,   a  new   Aerospace   Defense   Organization  has   been                                                               
established.   The aforementioned  organization is unique  to the                                                               
National  Guard in  America.   Fort  Greely and  Clear Air  Force                                                               
Station  have  been  placed  under   the  new  Aerospace  Defense                                                               
Organization.     He  mentioned  that  family   support  is  very                                                               
important to  the Army National Guard  and work is being  done to                                                               
ensure that the families don't  feel isolated when family members                                                               
are sent  overseas.  In  fact, Adjutant General  Campbell pointed                                                               
out that  he met  with each  of the families  of the  airmen that                                                               
left to  go overseas as the  drivers in Iraqi.   He stressed that                                                               
it's [the  Alaska National Guard's]  responsibility to  serve the                                                               
families of service people overseas.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL  CAMPBELL continued with the  2005 Objectives of                                                               
the  Army   National  Guard  and   mentioned  the   potential  of                                                               
outsourcing rural  armory facility  maintenance.  He  then turned                                                               
attention to the  integration of the New England  Scouts with the                                                               
Alaska Scouts.   The Scout mission in Alaska is  very valuable to                                                               
Alaska and  is relevant  to the  Army.  However,  as the  Army is                                                               
transforming, it  can no  longer afford to  have people  who only                                                               
serve as  Scouts.   In fact, Adjutant  General Campbell  has been                                                               
told that those soldiers that  are only Scouts will probably lack                                                               
relevancy to the  U.S.  Therefore, building in a  few other skill                                                               
sets necessary for infantry soldiers  creates a valuable asset to                                                               
America.  The aforementioned has  lead to looking to transforming                                                               
Alaska Scouts  by marrying them  with New England Scouts  to form                                                               
one Scout  battalion with additional  infantry requirements.   He                                                               
stressed that making  the Scouts relevant is  important to ensure                                                               
that  the funding  remains.   There  are 74  armories around  the                                                               
state and if [the Alaska  Scouts] become irrelevant with the Army                                                               
National Guard,  the funding will  go elsewhere and  soldiers and                                                               
armories will be lost.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 10.24                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL CAMPBELL informed  the committee that there will                                                               
be some inspections at Kulis  Air National Guard Base and Eielson                                                               
Air  Force Base.    The aforementioned  is  important because  it                                                               
demonstrates the capability to perform,  and therefore allows the                                                               
continued ability  to petition  for money.   He then  returned to                                                               
the joint  aspect and  pointed out that  a Joint  Security Police                                                               
facility  is  being  built  at  Eielson  Air  Force  Base.    The                                                               
aforementioned  is a  focus of  Lieutenant General  Chandler, who                                                               
has made  it clear that  any construction at military  bases must                                                               
be done together.   The building at Eielson Air  Force Base is an                                                               
outstanding facility  with the most  modern and state of  the art                                                               
technology  available  in  one  location.   Such  a  facility  is                                                               
efficient and  saves taxpayer  money, and  helps the  airmen from                                                               
the Guard  and the  active duty work  together, learn  about each                                                               
other, and build camaraderie.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT  GENERAL CAMPBELL  turned  to the  Alaska State  Defense                                                               
Force, which he said he  plans to integrate more into operational                                                               
plans so  that they  will be trained,  ready, and  available when                                                               
needed.    Last  summer,  an  operations  plan  with  the  Alaska                                                               
Railroad  (ARR) was  completed and  the ARR  trainer trained  the                                                               
Alaska  State Defense  Force in  regard to  what it  expected for                                                               
force protection  of the railroad.   With that,  Adjutant General                                                               
Campbell  reiterated  that  the  Alaska National  Guard  and  the                                                               
active duty component in Alaska is  one team in Alaska.  Adjutant                                                               
General Campbell concluded as follows:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     We are  your militia,  started in  1649, back  there in                                                                    
     New England  to provide  the needs  for the  state, the                                                                    
     villages, and the  towns, and we remain that  today.  I                                                                    
     work  for  the  governor,   the  National  Guard  as  a                                                                    
     governor's resource.   We're here to serve  you, but we                                                                    
     are  fully trained,  fully ready  to serve  our federal                                                                    
     side  if every  activated, without  that your  National                                                                    
     Guard would not  have relevancy to America  and we need                                                                    
     to be relevant to America.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 8.04                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JANICE NEILSON,  Director, Governmental and  Legislative Affairs,                                                               
U.S. Army  Pacific, thanked the  committee for its  invitation to                                                               
be  present  today.    On  behalf  of  Lieutenant  General  James                                                               
Campbell, she  related his best  and thanks to the  committee and                                                               
Alaska for  its support of  the Army and  all other forces.   She                                                               
noted  that Alaska's  congressional  delegation  has worked  very                                                               
hard  to  ensure  that  [the U.S.  Army  Pacific]  is  adequately                                                               
funded,  which is  the case.    However, there  are many  unknown                                                               
factors  that impact  funding.   With regard  to the  anticipated                                                               
visit of  the high-speed  vessels, Ms.  Neilson pointed  out that                                                               
those were  sent to  support the global  war on  terrorism, which                                                               
represents  an  example  of  an  unknown  factor.    Ms.  Neilson                                                               
informed the  committee that  it will probably  hear more  in the                                                               
future with regard to the  Army's Force Stabilization Initiative.                                                               
This   initiative  works   toward  rotating   units  collectively                                                               
together.    In  other  words,  units would  come  to  the  state                                                               
together,  train  together, and  be  deployed  together and  then                                                               
rotate  out  of the  state  together.   The  aforementioned  will                                                               
impact the  troops in  Alaska in 2006  when about  3,000 soldiers                                                               
will depart from  the Fairbanks area while about  the same amount                                                               
will come into the area.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 4.06                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN reminded the committee  that in 2004 the seats of                                                               
Jake Lestenkoff  and Master  Chief Frank  Love will  be available                                                               
for [reinstatement  or a new  member].  Jake Lestenkof's  seat is                                                               
nominated by  the Alaska Federation  of Natives (AFN)  and Master                                                               
Chief Frank  Love's seat  is nominated by  the U.S.  Coast Guard.                                                               
In 2005,  General George Cannelos'  seat, nominated by  the Mayor                                                               
of Anchorage,  and Charles Wallace's seat,  nominated by Military                                                               
Associates of  the Army, Air  Force, and Navy, will  be available                                                               
for reinstatement or a nomination.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  informed the committee that  it's staff, Barbara                                                               
Mee, is  retiring.   He noted  his thanks  for her  and announced                                                               
that he,  the committee, and the  state will miss her.   Co-Chair                                                               
Wilken  announced  that  Lieutenant   General  Chandler  will  be                                                               
rotating out mid-summer and thanked  him for his work for Alaska,                                                               
the  nation,  and the  world.    Co-Chair Wilken  mentioned  that                                                               
Admiral  Jim Underwood  couldn't  be present  today, but  Captain                                                               
Ryan was present  for him.  He requested that  Captain Ryan relay                                                               
his thanks to Admiral Underwood as he moves to the Pentagon.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  provided the committee with  a letter discussing                                                               
the BRAC closures and the new process.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 04-2, SIDE A                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the Joint                                                               
Armed Services Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:44 a.m.                                                                    

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